What kind of a culture does this?
The Brussels Journal
It cannot be just the culture. Something has got to be wrong with the people who are able to do things like:
"The clitoridectomy took place in January 2005 at their home in Mogadishu. The clitoris was removed with a razor blade, while her father kept firm hold of the girl. The painful operation was performed without anaesthetics."
A culture that breeds this kind of behavior has no value. It's about time the authorities in Sweden should start tracking down these valueless human beings who are able perform such monsterous acts on their own children. I wonder how many cases of clitordectomy have taken place in Sweden alone since the practice was banned there in 1982.
Edit: Infidel Bloggers Alliance notes that CAIR, Council on American-Islamic Relations, ("to enhance understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, and empower American Muslims...") , supports the newly established Islamic regime in Mogadishu. IBA notes:
More sad news - The Marine recruiter who was "portrayed as an overzealous Marine recruiter who targeted poor kids" in Michael Moore's propaganda hit, Fahrenheit 9/11, died some weeks ago in Iraq during his second tour of duty. The world will remember this hero as some stupid yankee who got paid for bringing poor people into the military. Moore also lied to get him to appear in the documentary. The news story at Military.com should help you get to know the opposite side of the story.
It cannot be just the culture. Something has got to be wrong with the people who are able to do things like:
"The clitoridectomy took place in January 2005 at their home in Mogadishu. The clitoris was removed with a razor blade, while her father kept firm hold of the girl. The painful operation was performed without anaesthetics."
A culture that breeds this kind of behavior has no value. It's about time the authorities in Sweden should start tracking down these valueless human beings who are able perform such monsterous acts on their own children. I wonder how many cases of clitordectomy have taken place in Sweden alone since the practice was banned there in 1982.
Edit: Infidel Bloggers Alliance notes that CAIR, Council on American-Islamic Relations, ("to enhance understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, and empower American Muslims...") , supports the newly established Islamic regime in Mogadishu. IBA notes:
Since they have taken over, the Islamic fanatics have done the following:
1) declared that anyone who misses even one of his five daily prayers will be put to death
and
2) dealt out the punishment of death to two men for watching the World Cup on television
More sad news - The Marine recruiter who was "portrayed as an overzealous Marine recruiter who targeted poor kids" in Michael Moore's propaganda hit, Fahrenheit 9/11, died some weeks ago in Iraq during his second tour of duty. The world will remember this hero as some stupid yankee who got paid for bringing poor people into the military. Moore also lied to get him to appear in the documentary. The news story at Military.com should help you get to know the opposite side of the story.
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posted by MSandt at 6:22 PM
6 Comments:
I (of course) second the idea completely that such atrocities are monstrous, inhumane and beyond understanding for western civilized people like us. But...
"It cannot be just the culture. Something has got to be wrong with the people who are able to do things like."
...this is just plain wrong. The idea that muslims are somehow innately incapable of respecting human life and living as tolerate members of a liberal democracy is wrong. And a fortiori, the idea that, say, finnish people are innately incapable of atrocities like this is even more wrong. The problem is simply Islam, the social and political system that has pervaded these people's lifes from their birth. It has not only permitted these people to unleash their most atavistic instincts and the lure of violence and oppression as viable behavioral models, it has also strengthened these instincts and made the people living in the culture blind to question the justification for behavior like this.
But the same instincts, same genes, same shared human nature capable of these atrocities lurks behind the civilized and educated facades of each and every one of us.
I believe we share the common goal of helping these people to come to the 21st century, where modernization and civilization have largely suffocated the tribal instincts and opened people's eyes to the costs of uncivilized life. But to really make a change, we can't build our policies or even our programs of social action on factual inaccuracies. Let alone make contrafactual divisions between "us" and "them".
Of course, with the strong words I use, I'm not implying yours is a point of view opposed to mine. I'm simply saying when fighting Islam, the problem really is only Islam; not the misled muslim people (even the leaders).
Islam is not an excuse. Fuck these barbarians.
Toni:
"The idea that muslims are somehow innately incapable of respecting human life and living as tolerate members of a liberal democracy is wrong."
I wasn't making a generalization about arabs in general. It was never my point to say that the arabs are biologically unfit. I was referring to those individuals who're capable of watching/participating when their own children are being sliced. And these individuals are found from every culture. However, when you have an underdeveloped culture, like the Arab-Islam culture, these nuts have a better opportunity to run free and do horrible things. It's just the way a culture reflects itself through people living under it.
I saw Fahrenheit 9/11 (twice) and I don't think the recruiter was portrayed as such.
He was just doing his job, and his job called for him to reach out to people who were the most financially vulnerable and willing to take the risk that goes along with enlisting in the army in order to get some of its benefits.
Michael Moore is just a filmmaker. He has/had a political agenda. But he si part of the same American circus as Ann Coulter who recently declared that the 9/11 widows - a group of activists known as the Jersey Girls - were happy their husbands died.
Give me a break, dude.
Giustino:
"Michael Moore is just a filmmaker."
And should be known as such; he's not a documentarist.
"But he si part of the same American circus as Ann Coulter who recently declared that the 9/11 widows - a group of activists known as the Jersey Girls - were happy their husbands died."
Well I'm not a fan of Ann Coulter either. She's ugly and an idiot.
Delighted to see, Mikko, that you are not a big fan of that vicious bitch either. As nut cases go, she is pure royalty.
Moore, though fairly good film maker, is somewhat tiresome, and I get a feeling that his work is becoming sort of paint by the numbers job. He has found a niche which he is ready and willing to milk all it's worth.
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